Thursday, December 13, 2007

Simon de Manning

I found this on the Internet and cannot vouch for its authenticity or veracity:

Simon de Manning, 12th Century

Baron, Knight, Crusader and Lord of the Castle at village of Bertrey.

He was the seventh great-grandfather of Phebe Manning, wife of James Waters of London.According to Walter Nathan Waters in his unpublished notes entitled "The Waters Family of West Sutton, Mass. 1720-1935": Simon de Manning lived about 1230. Quoting Walter: "The first Simon de Manning, said by one authority to be a grandson of Rudolph of Mannheim (970), was the first English baron to take up the cross and go with King Richard I, Coeur de Lion, (1189-1199) to the Holy Wars in the Second Crusade, when he was knighted. He died during the reign of King Henry III (1217-1261).

Simon was the grandson of Gilbert de Maminot, born about 1050, whowas a Norman, a member of William the Conqueror's people who came from Normandy, France.The French invasion of England occurred in 1066 when Gilbert was about 16.Perhaps he fought in the battle for England.

The battle was fought at Hastings in the southern tip of England. Harold, the English king had been up in the northernmost part of England (Scotland) fighting the Norse King. The English King won the battle with the Vikings. Hearing that the French invaders
were raping the English women, he and his English army made a forced march all the way down through England. It's no wonder the Frenchman, William, killed Harold at Hastings. Immediately after their king's death, the English surrendered.

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History Of St Mary The Virgin Chuch,Downe Kent Mentions Manning's


The steeple must have been built by the 16th century, because an inventory of 1552 refers to three bells. Two of these made by William Dawe of London (1385-1418) and one, maker unknown, dated 1511. The remaining three were added early this century.

Apart from the previously mentioned lancet window, the other windows were substituted during the Perpendicular period (15th or early 16th century), although they were extensively restored by the Victorians.

The font appears to belong to this period and is undistinguished, probably local work. At some time its stonework has been defaced.

The brass in the nave floor in memory of Tomas Petle and his wife Isabella is undated but probably late 15th century. The Petley family was prominent in Downe between the 13th and 16th centuries and a house in the village is called Petleys.

The Manning family was also numerous and important, and a brass in the nave records the death of John in 1543. Another brass in the chancel shows the family arms and motto and records that Edward, the son of the last Manning buried in Downe, died in 1622 at the age of 20, having been page to Prince Charles, later King Charles I.

During recent repair work, the nave floor was taken up and revealed the broken remains of inscriptions which had covered coffins, now disintegrated. One fragment refers to John Bederenden, a citizen of London, an MP and draper, who died in 1445, although it is not clear why he was buried in Downe.

In 1538, Thomas Cromwell, Vicar General to King Henry VIII, ordered registers of births, marriages and deaths to be kept. In our diocese of Rochester, Downe possesses one of the only ten to survive from this time, although it is now kept for safety with most of the church's old records at Bromley Library.

Thursday, April 05, 2007

The Family Of Manning

The family of Manning had their early origin in Germany, and in the 4th or 5th century went from Saxony, in the lower part of that country, to England, where at first the family consisted of three branches, one in County Kent, one in Sussex, and another in Norfolk.

In Kent we find Ranuloph deManning, of Manholm, Lord of Manholm, who married the aunt of King Harold. His son, Simon deManning, was Lord of Betiad at Downe, County Kent. He was the first English baron to go with KingRichard to the crusades in 1190. Simon de Manning is the ancestor of the Mannings of Downe and Cudham, who were knights marshall of the household of England's sovereigns for about 400 years.

The Mannings in Ireland arrived during the reign of Henry II, 1154 - 1189. Sir Henry Manning, knightmarshall to Henry VII, had a grandson, John Manning who had a grant of part of the possessions ofthe Earl of Desmond, in Ireland. In 1600 he joined the Earl of Essex in an expedition to the land of the Irish people.

Branches of the Manning family from England and Ireland emigrated to North America and settled in Nova Scotia, New England, New York, New Jersey,Virginia and the Carolinas.

Mannings are now living all across Canada and the United States.